A Native Perspective on Contemporary Technology
An Interview with Daniel Wildcat

By Barbra Wakshul

Daniel Wildcat

Daniel Wildcat is a Yuchi member of the Muscogee Nation of Oklahoma. He directs the Haskell Environmental Research Studies Center at Haskell Indian Nations University in Lawrence, Kansas. Wildcat also chairs the American Indian Studies Program at Haskell, and is an adjunct faculty member of the Bloch School of Business Administration at the University of Missouri at Kansas City.
Wildcat received his bachelor's and master's degrees in sociology from the University of Kansas. He is currently completing an interdisciplinary Ph.D. in public administration and social sciences at the University of Missouri at Kansas City.
Wildcat has published extensively on topics ranging from technology and traditional knowledge to Indian education. He is an invited speaker throughout the United States and Europe on North American Indian worldviews and diversity. His research and thinking focus on how tribal nations lived sustainably for long periods of time and what can be gleaned from studying them. As he prepared to travel to Romania as a guest lecturer in the Open Society Institute's Higher Education Support Program, Wildcat was gracious enough to share his thoughts on contemporary technology from a Native perspective.

Winds of Change:
You've said that the exploration of new technologies and knowledge must not overlook that of the past. Can you describe the old technologies that need to be remembered and kept current?

Daniel Wildcat:
We should look in three areas: housing, food and planning and assessment models. The rectangular "spec" houses that continue to be built across Indian Country are not only ugly but extremely wasteful from an energy perspective. Native architects and designers should examine the insights our ancestors had that enabled them to build dwellings that took full advantage of an environment's climate, landscape and materials one found in the places they called home. Design and sustainability issues were foremost when our ancestors built the pueblos in the desert southwest, grass lodges on the southern plains, earth lodges along the Republican and Missouri Rivers, and the teepee (tipi) of the plains. They had knowledge about how to build dwellings that fit the landscape they inhabited. I am not suggesting that we go back to building exactly the way they did; what I am suggesting is that there may be some very appropriate and sustainable indigenous design features we should take advantage of today.
With respect to food, we find little evidence that earlier generations had the kind of lifestyle (environmental) diseases that plague us today: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, cancer. In looking at the diets our ancestors subsisted on, we see the undeniable benefits of eating grassland bison as opposed to feedlot fattened cattle. Bison is much leaner than "manufactured" beef. Corn, fish, wild rice: no matter where we go on this continent, we find tribal people knew how to exist on foods native to their environments. We should look very carefully at what modern nutritional science is telling us about contemporary diets, where foods are viewed first and foremost as economic commodities.
As far as assessment models go, I think we must draw on what Rick Williams, Oglala Lakota, executive director of the American Indian College Fund, calls our "natural intelligence." Our ancestors had good sense?\an experiential wisdom?\that allowed them to always be mindful of the complex results of actions they took. One needs to be attentive to the land and learn from it and all our living relatives (including plants and animals). The notion that in the life system of planet earth we are all connected and related is hardly romantic. Rather, this connectedness is a fair representation of Native realism. It is akin to what many scientists, engineers and mathematicians now call a complex system, where the current situations and conditions we face are the results of processes through which structures consisting of numerous parts interact. Much of reality is better understood as complex dynamic interactions and processes not reducible to simplistic and deterministic cause and effect logic. This is something inherent in many indigenous worldviews. Bringing Native thinkers into the field of planning and assessment may therefore be particularly useful, since they are predisposed to big-picture thinking. Our ancestors were thinking out-of-the box long before it became the popular catch phrase of corporate trainers.

WOC:
What are the implications of disconnecting technology from the bigger picture?

DW:
The implication of disconnecting technology from the "big picture" of our human experience is that we forget the unique lessons we learned about living well or, as my colleague and friend George Godfrey, Citizen Band Potawatomi, would say, "living lightly on the land." The problem we face today is that the measure of technological progress is often thought of as the extent to which humankind can control and mitigate the so-called forces of nature. I find it hard to imagine a more problematic and dangerous idea. Why not figure out a way to live with nature? We ought to think of ecosystems and environments as our natural communities, full of our relatives. We must recognize a symbiotic relationship between nature and culture. Until very recently, tribal identities and culture emerged from the complex environmental and ecological systems where our ancestors lived.

WOC:
How can incorporating the Native perspective prevent the destructive side of technology from overshadowing its constructive aspect? What specifically do you see as coming out of this marriage between Western and Native views?

DW:
First, in order for these two views to come together, Native people need to make a place for that to happen, where this coming together is respectful and honest. I hope the tribal colleges will become this place. But even science in our tribal colleges is, I feel, unfortunately shaped by the large federal funding sources that seem to have no interest in indigenous worldviews, knowledge and wisdom. This is in many respects the crux of the problem: so long as the methodologies of Western science are held as the touchstone for true knowledge, the knowledge Native peoples acquired through many generations of living with the land are precluded from serious consideration. Native worldviews can prevent the destructive aspects of technology because they never look at technology independent of the "big picture" of life on this planet. The crucial point is that the physical, emotional, spiritual and intellectual layers of life cannot be separated out from the specific places, unique ecosystems, and the environments where people live. Most of our tribal cultures and worldviews were in fact largely emergent from the places where our tribes lived.
The world has not grown smaller, as information and communication technologies (ICT) gurus and advertisers would like us to think. Rather, information and communication technologies have in some very profound ways given us the opportunity to extend the big picture in which we operate. But keep in mind we need to give primary importance to the people "on the ground" so to speak. Not only because their information is the richest from an experiential standpoint but because what they express and how they express "the facts" will go beyond the homogenous quantitative data-processing models most scientists examine. I am not arguing against the use of those models or even the further development of them, although while they tell us often about the sources of the problems, they fail to suggest practical solutions.
One final point here needs to be emphasized: our ancestors made mistakes throughout their history. Look at the incredible cultural developments found at Cahokia, Chaco Canyon, the complex of southwestern cliff dwellings and many of the mound complexes of the east and southeast United States?\all abandoned centuries before 1492. Yes, we made mistakes, and like any attentive human beings, we learned from them. There is a much thinner line between trial and error and formal experimentalism than many scientists are willing to admit. No people or culture on this planet has a spotless record when it comes to making choices that were unsustainable.

The problem we face today is that the measure of technological progress is often thought of as the extent to which humankind can control and mitigate the so-called forces of nature.

WOC:
You've lectured about how the "www.virtual reality of the new global economy makes us forget the people behind the monitor." What are the consequences of this and how can a Native perspective heal this problem?

DW:
By always looking at e-markets, virtual persons and virtual communities through a computer monitor, one develops a very unrealistic perception of the world. The virtual realities of the Internet further remove one from living relations and very rich communication. It seems as if the more humans get caught up in virtual communities consisting of virtual persons, the less attentive they are to the human and ecological communities.
I am not surprised to be hearing that people who spend large amounts of time on computers may have higher rates of depression. If one is not careful, computers seem to encourage an inattentiveness to the very life and energy or power that surrounds us. How ironic that today "being connected" seems to have less to do with the phenomenal world around us than the batteries, satellites and high-speed Internet connectivity our machines require.

WOC:
As a tribal college professor, what guidance do you offer your students interested in a career in technology? How do you guide them to truly think outside the box?

DW:
I am increasingly asking my students to master not only content in all the courses I teach, but also to show the practical applications of ideas, concepts, and knowledge they gain. I try to demonstrate how ideas and knowledge, when applied, lead to certain logical results—often results quite negative to ourselves and our relatives.
My friend Roberto Gonzales Plaza, native Chilean and biology/chemistry professor at Northwest Indian College, has repeated to me several times recently: "We have the knowledge we need, the issue is why do we fail to use it?" As John Dewey pointed out repeatedly in his writing on American education, we set up systems of education where we completely, and with disastrous consequences, separate knowing from doing. Mainstream education is so full of rote memorization and abstraction. Even when one addresses philosophy and metaphysics one needs to constantly ask, "So what?" This is where Native traditions have something very valuable to contribute: the practical applications of knowledge that makes something meaningful.
I heard Oren Lyons, a traditional Faithkeeper of the Turtle Clan, and a member of the Onondaga Nation Council of Chiefs of the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy, remark that it makes a big difference whether one sees the natural world as full of resources or relatives. In many of our oldest tribal traditions, we saw the natural world as full of our relatives. Think about it: you better not treat your relatives like resources. This is indigenous realism, not romanticism. This one conceptual shift could have profound positive consequences.
Let me express some optimism here. If American Indians and Alaska Natives will take seriously the wisdom of their ancestors and bring it into the fields of technology and science, I think we will see some incredible success in precisely the areas where modernity and post-modernity have failed. Indigenous innovation in design and technologies could help people on and off the reservation, or for that matter improve the overall quality of life on this planet.

Barbra Wakshul is a contributing editor and the marketing director for Winds of Change.


 

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